We have a long way to go in international cultural homogeny when it comes to using graphics in international communication. Symbols, letters, puns, animals, religions, and even colors present “translation” problems. These issues are the focus of the article, which attempts to give hope to the reader by providing guidelines for using graphics in a multicultural setting.
My personal response to this 1993 article involves discussion of the Internet. Read on my friends!
It occurs to me that to accomplish true cultural homogeny in graphics, nations themselves would have to be obliterated, for concepts of right and wrong, good and evil, are engrained in the simplist contrasts (such as right and left).
Since the writing of this article in 1993, however, the Internet has arisen as the great Obliterator (do you agree?). On the Net you can more easily internationalize, something that paper documents cannot do. For instance, the net allows cultural elements to be processed dynamically (have you ever gone to a website and chosen the "U.S." version to view?). A good rule for business communication today is "get on the net" because it’s the safest place to be.
Why?
Besides combining cultures in a dynamic way, the internet is also creating its own culture, its own law for graphics. Bypassing many of the hard-fast rules of paper documents, the internet has its own ground rules. In many senses, by logging on, you log out of the real world and into a whole new ballgame of graphical conventions.
QUESTION: In what ways do you see the Internet bypassing cultural barriers? Give examples.
Is the Internet culture killing other cultures or is simply a separate entity, one to add to the list?
I commend Horton for trying to solve this vast problem concerning universal communication, however, this article does not present many solid "answers" to the problem. Instead, Horton suggests a number of things that may, or may not, work for any given audience.
Cultures demonstrate common tendencies and many people in which ever culture you are trying to communicate with will see the image in a similar way. But what about stressing communication to specific people? What is to guarantee each person is going percieve the information the same?
The answer is simple: there is no guarantee. For nothing to be lost in translation everyone must be homogenous, which will never happen. Just because one person belongs to one culture does not mean that his/her experiences are reflective of that cultures' as a whole. Furthermore, those experiences will guide any one person differently.
Also, if one is paying to translate text, will one have to pay to translate images? I don't believe universal images exist. One has to alter the image to make it understandable, therefore it is obviously not universal.
Universal communication does not and will not exist until something far outside of "the box" establishes itself in our perceptual methods.
Posted by: jbachmeier at September 14, 2003 04:35 PMI don't think that the internet can be seen as an "obliterator" of national/cultural boundries, but it may be defined as one hell of a translator. As the media culture in America strives for universality they have been slowly working to explain the cultural differences that they're working against. The more our populace understands about these differences, the less the media has to change. Think about the media you consume on a regular basis; can you determine the cultural audience for a piece of media, and have you learned to appreciate the difference between that culture and your own?
Nutshell observation - Electronic media have taught us to understand differences between cultures by making cultures more accessible. I can't say that they have convinced people to be accepting of differences, but they are at least more recognizable.
Posted by: Adam at September 14, 2003 06:24 PMIn his article, Horton does more to delineate the issues involved in working toward a graphic language that approaches some semblance of universality. At the least, he illuminates some of the pitfalls we face in an effort to make images serve cross-culturally. His examples are interesting ones and drive home his points quite well. The main thing I took from this reading is to be aware of where I can use images to replace text and to be doubly aware of the rhetorical situation for which I am writing/designing as I consider the use of imagery--particularly of the audience and context components.
In addition, I found the layout and design of the Horton piece very much reflects the Kostelnick (Ch. 2) reading. Material is broken into groups, headed and subheaded, even dropped into tables where doing so improves accessability of the information. Callouts (pull-quotes) summarize main points and vital information is actually boxed for emphasis. A nice example of gestalt principles in action. Viqui
Posted by: Viqui at September 14, 2003 07:14 PMI wonder at the question, "killing other cultures?" What exactly does it mean to kill a culture? I can understand it in the theoretical abstract, but I feel that this idea does not adequately credit individuals with responsiblity. In other words, if some major trend that came from some other nation was to come to the U.S., and we as a culture, for whatever reason, were poised to accept this trend to the point that we no longer had the same values or customs-- no longer resembled our former selves, would it be death or evolution? Would we as a culture not be responsible for the the change albeit under some "foreign" influence? What is voluntary and involuntary comes into play here.
On the other hand, I do not think the McDonaldization of the world is such a good thing, though I have enjoyed some familiar food in unfamiliar places.
Anyway, I think that the internet allows information and communication to pass between borders so freely that its influences can only be positive because now we as a people are not as prone to accept what a government or propaganda tells us to think about another culture or government. We can communicate with them directly. For example, I have an "e" pen pal in Ukraine, and we are able to share our experiences through emails and jpegs with no added cost and little time loss. If I am interested in another culture, the available perspective is much broader because of the direct connection. I can read and see other's representation of self without the intermediary to digest, interpret, and write a book for me...
I don't think the internet solves some of the basic problems Horton delineates: first of all, the sites that have the "U.S." option have usually been translated at some point by a professional translator. My last job required me to run a lot of internet searches & also translate Ukrainian answers into English using an internet site. We often got humorous & off-the-wall translations because the people answering the questions in the Ukraine had responded with colloquialisms, which generally can't be translated except by a native speaker. Thus, to make a website entirely understandable in a language you need the services of a professional translator. Further evidence: in the internet searches I was running I often came across international sites- some of which could be translated, and others that had a message explaining they could not be translated. I heartily disagree that the internet is the "great obliterator."
Further proof: the internet uses a lot of the little icons that Horton tells us not to use (or at least he says we should carefully consider the audience before using them)... The same rules for icons apply on the internet- what if someone from another country put an icon of a middle finger on their website- we as Americans would still find it offensive.
There are also many cultures without access to computers & the internet. The Amish, for example, have a culture that could not be wiped out by the internet (unless they suddenly decide that electricity is a good thing).
I think internet culture is a separate entity, and I further think that it might vary from culture to culture (ie, perhaps internet culture in Japan differs from internet culture here.)
Posted by: KSmith at September 15, 2003 12:31 AMHorton's comments on the interpretation of cross-cultural visuals, in this case internet graphics and icons, definitely ring true in the realm of commnication between cultures. For instance, a good friend of mine from Germany just visted for a few weeks, and during this time he and I had numerous discusions on the different visual presentations in our two cultures (ie.American vs German news coverage). I found myself having to force explanation upon him when he found himself confused, which certainly decreased the effecctiveness of our communication.
In other words, cross-cultural visual recgnition can be a difficult path to maneuver. And this idea of graphics as a universal language is intriguing of course, but also hard to predict.
Graphics and photographs provide us the ability to transmit a message free of words or language, but they do not provide a universal basis for interpretation. As I have learned with my German friend, definite gaps still exist in the interpretation of images.
Well I see lots of very good points being made with reference to cultural relativity and interpretation, as well as the different variables involved with international use of the internet. Towards these I have two general replies.
1) As an anthropologist I would question what exactly we mean when we say culture. Do you mean a group of people from the same country, that speak the same language, or eat the same food? (Even in English we can't escape semiotics) The definition I see being used here is something like socially learned information, i.e. language, beliefs. Discussions about culture tend to mix around definitions, which then causes confusion and disagreement where there doesn't necessarily need to be any.
Saying one culture is this and another is that is very dangerous. Within one country or culture there can be a number of different groups that don't necessarily share the same values, interpretations etc. E.g. different dialects of Chinese are spoken in different places, different groups of Native Americans hold different values and beliefs. On the other hand there is a level at which these different groups are united. To stick with my exmaple: yes there may be different dialects, but they are all Chinese; yes there may be different tribes of Native Americans, but they all share something in common. There must be a common thread between groups so as to refer to them all as belonging to the same culture.
2) What this means for using graphics on an international level, is that there are going to be minor discrpancies and misinterpretations in any communication. I see this as getting back to intention. What is the author and readers intention? Can the author sacrifice some details to translation but still get the main point across? If the reader really wants to know what something means, then will they take the time to find out using other means?
I think that despite whatever obsticles translation and misinterpretation may present, people are adaptable, and if they don't know a particular symbol or associate a symbol with something other than what the author intended, then they'll figure it out if they really want to know. Business is a little more cut-throat and I wouldn't hold the same standards. The same goes for international instructions relating to matters of safety. I.e. "Oh, they'll learn if they want to get out of a burning building."
So yes, it is good to know the different ways a "cultural group" will interpret something. But in today's world it's still survival of the fittest. If the reader has something to gain they will take the effort to properly interpret the cultural context of the message. Yes, interpretation reflects some kind of bias that will leave some people out. The question for us seems to be, how do we include the most amount of people? Well, until we are all at least somewhat familiar with different cultural contexts and speak more than one language, we are going to have to be happy with native translators.
(This is all just rambling nonsense as far as I'm concerned. Written discussion is weird. Talk about mixing up mediums of communication. The "talk to people" file in my brain and the "write things down" file haven't been linked before.)
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